Book of mormon the late war

The late war between the united states and great britain. There are several theories as to the origin of the book of mormon. One would think, however, that iss would prevent such mediated influence from showing up as statistically significant in the results. In 20, the late war was the subject of discussion among both exmormons and mormon apologists. As a follow up to my previous post about the late great war against the book of mormon, there are some interesting parallels between the late war and the book of mormon that have gained some attention, especially among our critics. The book of mormon is written in pseudobiblical, 19 th century language. This theory that there was a connection between the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain was. The late war is essentially a history book about the war of 1812. Hunt, contains many parallels to the book of mormon. Did joseph smith steal from the late war to write the book of. We build enduring faith in jesus christ by making the book of mormon accessible, comprehensible, and defensible to the entire world. Parallels for the 2,000 stripling warriors in the book of. The late war against the book of mormon mcguire, benjamin l the late war against the book of mormon.

Jan 26, 2015 new developments in the investigation into the origins of the book of mormon. The late war against the book of mormon interpreter. Is the book of mormon like any other nineteenth century book. Long rumored to be the possible inspiration for the book of mormon, the late war is a classic piece of american literature that you should consider reading. The book of mormon is often called the keystone of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints otherwise known as the mormon church. The book of mormon and the late war both describe fighting for liberty from kings late war p. Some have found strong linguistic correspondence and declared that there is an authorial relationship. Hunt and it heavily influenced his writing of the book of mormon. In the book of mormon it does not contain reference to the children of israel and the people travel northward. What do mormons think about the theory that the 1816 book.

Problem is that too many still want to run with it. Was the late war against the united states a source for. An opensource, public domain resource that adds missing footnotes to the book of mormon. But the suggestion that joseph smith may have used this book in his writing of the book of mormon. Oct 27, 20 several studies by chris and duane johnson compared the texts of 5,270 books published between 1500 and 1830 to the book of mormon. The authors believe their studies indicate the book of mormon is dependent on the book the late war, between the united states and great britain, from june 1812, to february 1815. A work contemporaneous with the book of mormon, called the late war between the united states and great britain by g. The late war uses words or phrases that also appear in.

The late war is an account of the war of 1812 written in the style of the king james bible. While religious freedom and freedom from tyranny are aspects of american history, the kjv apocrypha and flavius josephus are just some of the ancient sources where these same themes. In recent years the book of mormon has been compared to pseudobiblical texts like gilbert j. In october 20, the authors conducted a data analysis comparing the book of mormon to over 100,000 books from the pre1830s era. Hunt, the late war, between the united states and great britain, from june 1812, to february 1815 1816 modeste gruau, the first book of. Chris johnson, duane johnson, in a comparison of the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain,propose a number of. The mesoamerican elements consistent with the book of mormon, and foreign to what joseph might have known, deserve serious consideration. Does statistical analysis of the late war against the united states show evidence of plagiarism in the book of mormon.

An account written by the hand of mormon upon plates. Was the late war against the united states a source for the. This indicates that jane austens work was less influenced by her literary culture than the book of mormon. Did joseph smith steal from the late war to write the book. The location in the late war mentions the that it was unknown to the children of israel and the direction is southward. An account written by the hand of mormon upon plates taken from the. A comparison of the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain late war comparison by chris and duane johnson. The approximate dates and locations of these wars, along with accompanying scriptural references, are listed in this chart. Nov 10, 2017 extensive computer analysis proves late war has more in common with other books, such as the american revolution by richard snowden, published in 1823, than it does with the book of mormon. A typical example of the differences between the bom, the kjv, and the jst. Scriptural style in early nineteenth century american literature including the late war by gilbert j. The book of mormon is a sacred text of the latter day saint movement, which, according to adherents, contains writings of ancient prophets who lived on the american continent from approximately 2200 bc to ad 421. Oct 27, 20 the late war appears to be a supported literary style within a genre. The late war against the book of mormon book of mormon.

It seems likely that most latterday saints are unfamiliar with the theory. Chris johnson, duane johnson, in a comparison of the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain, propose a number of parallel sentence structures between gilbert hunts book the late war and the book. The book of mormon contains over 100 4gram matches please see this and scroll to the top after loading to the the late war. A comparison of the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain. The internets been abuzz with hype this week about a new computer study by duane and chris johnson which purports to identify four literary influences on the book of mormon besides the king james bible gilbert j. Book of mormon and late war comparison mormonleaks. Although the book of mormon is a complex record, it is still very clear and purposeful. Ancient perspectives on enos, jarom, omni, and words of. An ancient american book also should be read by anyone even mildly impressed with the late war as a possible explanation for the book of mormon. These episodes are best seen as a continuation of our discussion from earlier this year wherein john hamer provides a 19th century context for the book of mormon john hamer graciously created a number of slides that give. An assumption is being made that joseph smith must have read gilbert hunts the late war in the absence of any evidence to support it. Mormonleaks is a research project that seeks to reconstruct the authentic narrative of the origins of the mormon canon by combining macroanalytic computing tools with contemporary historical evidence the historical records reveal a small pool of candidate authors collaborating in western new york and northern ohio to create the mormon scriptures. New computer study purports to detect literary influences.

Curious parallels between the book of mormon and the late. Mitchells from new york who were approached for literary endorsements. Is the book of mormon like any other nineteenth century. Out of the top matches, we discovered a book called the late war between the united states and great britain, a scriptural style account of the war of 1812 published in new york in 1816. This new theory posits that joseph smith most likely grew up reading a school book called the late war by gilbert j. A 19 th century book, the history of the late war between the united states and great britain, has been mentioned before now as a possible source for the book of mormon, most notably by rick grunder in his 2008 work, mormon parallels. Most adherents to the latter day saint movement view the book as a work of inspired scripture. The late war, the first book of napoleon if i ever attend gospel doctrine again, i typically leave after sacrament, i will volunteer to read a book of mormon passage. For example, one writer, convinced that the late war was an important source for the book of mormon, provides a lengthy list of.

The most common belief of adherents is that promoted by joseph smith, who said he translated ancient golden plates inscribed by prophets. While its hard not to yawn at many of the parallels from the latest, greatest smoking gun for book of mormon plagiarism, some of the parallels from that obscure book, the late war against the united states, are certainly. Its written in scriptural language and was published in 1816. Several studies by chris and duane johnson compared the texts of 5,270 books published between 1500 and 1830 to the book of mormon. Curious parallels between the book of mormon and the. Nov 09, 20 curious parallels between the book of mormon and the late war against the united states as a follow up to my previous post about the late great war against the book of mormon, there are some interesting parallels between the late war and the book of mormon that have gained some attention, especially among our critics.

Oct 27, 20 johnson and johnson speculate that the first book of napoleon influenced the late war, and that the formers influence may have been mediated to the book of mormon via the latter. Debunking the connection between the late war and the. A computeraided study that reveals some remarkable similarities between the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain published in 1816. Chris johnsons exmormon conference talk explaining the research that found a connection between the late war1816 and the book of mormon1830 chris johnsons website.

Many concepts from the book of mormon are present in this book notably 2000 stripling warriors, a liahonalike description of a metal device, the freeman movement, rod of iron, standard of liberty, brass plates, cataclysmic earthquakes followed by great darkness, chiasmus, and many, many more. Do hebraisms in the late war undermine the ones in the. This is a followup to my length post on curious parallels between the book of mormon and the late war against the united states. It seems lately that theyve backed off that verbiage somewhat. The late war between the united states and great britain is an educational text written by gilbert j. Common phrases scriptural style in early nineteenth literature. The late war was designed to inculcate a knowledge of recent history and a spirit of patriotism in students who might be called upon one. Chris johnson, duane johnson, in a comparison of the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain, propose a number of parallel sentence structures between gilbert hunts book the late war and the book of mormon. Join us now for this mormon stories podcast episode, where historian john hamer offers his theory as to how the book of mormon was created. The book of mormon, the late war, and what we learned from. The problem that chris and duane johnson made in their late war argument was couching their statements with phrasing suggesting that the book of mormon was copied from the late war. Mar 03, 2020 it seems likely that most latterday saints are unfamiliar with the theory. Although present in the book of mormon, and ancient hebrew, they are also found elsewhere, including an description of the concept in a mid1920s bible commentary written by adam clarke, and a 21 level chiasmus is found in the late war, a book published before the book of. The chapter on warfare in john sorensons recent mormons codex.

How the book of mormon was created, by john hamer mormon stories march 20, 2019 book of mormon, church history, joseph smith, top 100 9 comments join us now for this mormon stories podcast episode, where historian john hamer offers his theory as to how the book of mormon was created. The late war states a strong ship while the book of mormon just says ship. A comparison of the book of mormon and the late war between the united states and great britain late war how the book of mormons dates were chosen a statistical approach to book of mormon origins how the book of mormon dates were chosen published by. Between 1817 and 1819 it was marketed for the use of. Smith claimed the angel moroni, a prophet in the book of mormon. Hunt by matt roper and paul fields the late war against the book of mormon, by benjamin l. Pre1830 works that possibly influenced the book of mormon a list of books available in joseph smiths time written about topics present in the book of mormon. The book of mormon was consciously styled in the language of the late war but was not dependent on it for literary content.

Nov 07, 20 the late war and the book of mormon posted on november 7, 20 by sharon lindbloom a 19 th century book, the history of the late war between the united states and great britain, has been mentioned before now as a possible source for the book of mormon, most notably by rick grunder in his 2008 work, mormon parallels. In recent years, another theory for the origins of the book of mormon has emerged. Book of mormon plagiarism theories and the late war jeff lindsay. Chiasmus appear in many forms of writing from many parts of the world. The late war appears to be a supported literary style within a genre. Debunking the connection between the late war and the book. Stylometric comparisons with the late war uncovered the presence of many many short phrases in the book of mormon that are nearly unique to early 19 th century pseudobiblical writings. Extensive computer analysis proves late war has more in common with other books, such as the american revolution by richard snowden, published in 1823, than it does with the book of mormon. Late war shares 70 phrases that are 49 words long with the book of mormon, but shares 382 with american revolution.

Additional computer analysis demonstrates that regarding noncontextual words, archaic words, structure of the language, unusual words, distinguishing phrases, and content topics, the book of mormon is more similar to king james style than the late war. Essentially the argument against the book of mormon goes something like this. Late war by gilbert hunt recently as a possible source for understanding the language, style, and narrative content of the book of mormon. Nov 09, 20 this is a followup to my length post on curious parallels between the book of mormon and the late war against the united states.

The book of mormon includes mistranslated biblical passages that were later changed in joseph smiths translation of the bible. Book of mormonplagiarism accusationsthe late war fairmormon. Oct 30, 20 the rediscovery of the late war by gilbert hunt recently as a possible source for understanding the language, style, and narrative content of the book of mormon has already elicited a considerable. A book of mormon perspective is not the first book to address this important topic, but it is the most comprehensive. Was the beginning of the book of mormon derived from the first book of napoleon. These book of mormon verses should match the inspired jst version instead of the incorrect kjv version that joseph later fixed.

While its hard not to yawn at many of the parallels from the latest, greatest smoking gun for book of mormon plagiarism, some of the parallels from that obscure book, the late war against the united states, are certainly interesting, at least on first glance at. Having names and dates for these wars can help readers keep all of this confusing action straight. The late war was a direct source for some of the language and content of the book of mormon. Do hebraisms in the late war undermine the ones in the book. New computer study purports to detect literary influences on. The chapter on warfare in john sorensons recent mormon s codex. Surprisingly, the uniform match score between the book of mormon and the late war scoring 0. Jul 26, 2019 the book of mormon and the late war both describe fighting for liberty from kings late war p. Instead of reading the designated bom passage, i will mistakenly read a passage from the late war. The second argument by lds scholarsthat there are more differences than similarities between the late war and the book of mormonis an argument against outright plagiarism, but it rings hollow because it does not refute the critics point that the late war influenced at least the vocabulary joseph used in producing the book of mormon differences.

Aug 09, 2019 the second argument by lds scholarsthat there are more differences than similarities between the late war and the book of mormonis an argument against outright plagiarism, but it rings hollow because it does not refute the critics point that the late war influenced at least the vocabulary joseph used in producing the book of mormon. New developments in the investigation into the origins of the book of mormon. Answering the ces letter 15 17 the late war brian hales pt. It was first published in march 1830 by joseph smith as the book of mormon. The rediscovery of the late war by gilbert hunt recently as a possible source for understanding the language, style, and narrative content of the book of mormon has already elicited a considerable. He seems to be the same guy who also endorsed the book of mormon unless there were two renowned dr samuel l. The late war between the united states and great britain by gilbert hunt, is a king james style history book used as a student reader about the war of 1812. Book of mormon defenders as evidence of an underlying ancient hebrew text. The late war uses words or phrases that also appear in the book of mormon.